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		<title>LegacyKing: Created page with &quot;'''Board Members Present:''' * Chair 2nd &amp; Admin SB - Andrew M. * Code SB - James D. * PR SB - Paul N.  '''Not Present:''' * Content SB - Barak * Arch SB - Tom P.  '''Publishe...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Board Members Present:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; * Chair 2nd &amp;amp; Admin SB - Andrew M. * Code SB - James D. * PR SB - Paul N.  &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Not Present:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; * Content SB - Barak * Arch SB - Tom P.  &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Publishe...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;'''Board Members Present:'''&lt;br /&gt;
* Chair 2nd &amp;amp; Admin SB - Andrew M.&lt;br /&gt;
* Code SB - James D.&lt;br /&gt;
* PR SB - Paul N.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Not Present:'''&lt;br /&gt;
* Content SB - Barak&lt;br /&gt;
* Arch SB - Tom P.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Publishers:'''&lt;br /&gt;
* Battlefield Press - Jon&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Raw Log'''&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:04] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; *Bangs Gavel* Welcome to the Board of Directors Meeting for August the 2nd, 1500hours (Pacific Time in USA)&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:05] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; August 3rd, 0800 for our Aussie friends :)&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:05] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; Our Agenda today:&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:05] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; Team Reports&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:05] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; Outstanding Issues&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:05] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; Roadmap Updates?&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:06] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; Open Business&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:06] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; I'll start us off with the Admin - Web Report&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:07] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; The new website is looking awesome, no hiccups thus far. Jamie and Anestis have done a fine job and the Social media tools are working nicely.&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:07] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; Anestis has been working on Forum Support, we may just have to drop the Mailing List requirements and get a good quality forum for the time being.&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:07] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; That's the only main item on the Web Team plate at this time.&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:08] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; Tracker Team - JIRA was updated by James. The layout is a bit different, but otherwise, you can change it back to what you are used too.&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:09] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; Trackers are flying out left and right. We've had a whole slew of new reports.&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:10] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; Release - Still in a holding pattern for 6.0's next release pending Code Fixes from Stefan for the Dragon Rework. Next Alpha is up to James. We've had a bunch of Data Work and some Code changes.&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:10] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; Questions so far?&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:11] &amp;lt;[PR]Nylanfs&amp;gt; I wonder if we drop the mailing list option if we instead go with a smartphone app plug-in if that would help?&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:11] &amp;lt;[PR]Nylanfs&amp;gt; for the forums?&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:12] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; Don't know, that would be something to consider.&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:13] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; On to the Content Team&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:13] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; Really the main gate to 6.0 is the three pathfinder books isn't it?&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:13] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; Yes&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:13] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; ARG, B3 and UE&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:13] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; yeah&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:13] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; and if we have those would we hold off for the dragon issue?&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:14] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; B3 has dragons, I was hoping to only code up 5 dragons, not 60 variants. Hence why I'm pushing Stefan for some fixes.&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:15] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; new code features rather than fixes presumably&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:15] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; Actually, fixes, something isn't firing on my end, and I need a code monkey to find out why. Stefan said he'd look into it.&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:15] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; ok&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:16] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; I'll toss up the dragons to the 5 and we'll be waiting for a fix... (Side Note: Stefan is vacationing, so who knows when he'll get to it).&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:17] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; I assume the issue is in jira?&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:17] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; I've opened a few trackers, yes.&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:18] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; Data - Working my way through the books. Reviews are slow due to several recent issues... the new issue is how to handle duplicates... with each book added the list grows longer.&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:19] &amp;lt;[PR]Nylanfs&amp;gt; It should be in the book that it was first introduced in, and other books MOD those&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:20] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; Assuming that you are lading those books - which is nto always the case&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:20] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; One book passed and has been added 'Blood of Fiends'&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:20] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; @Nylanfs - James is correct. The issue is the original books aren't always being loaded&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:21] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; and we don't have a method to selective load based upon books.&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:21] &amp;lt;[PR]Nylanfs&amp;gt; Ahh, I see&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:22] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; Basically the end user is forced to use the Use most recent items for dupes, but that can mask errors too.&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:22] &amp;lt;[PR]Nylanfs&amp;gt; The only way to avoid that is to switch to some kind of database data structure wouldn't it?&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:23] * @[Chair]Drew looks at James&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:23] * @[Chair]Drew shrugs&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:23] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; OS - We had a reversal of code changes so the OS sheets need to be redone using the new countdistinct.&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:25] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; @Nylanfs I'm not sure a database structure would in itself help here - I requirement needs to be worked out first and then we can look at how to achieve it&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:25] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; Docs - I've been asked about updating our LST Docs. LST Class seems to be getting several members and the stuff on there is outdated.&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:27] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; Oh, and lest I forget - Data Bugs - We've had a LOT of reports and I've been knocking those out as fast as I can. Having a QA monkey would certainly help though...&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:27] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; Unless we have questions, let's have Nylanfs do PR team. :)&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:29] &amp;lt;[PR]Nylanfs&amp;gt; K PR report&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:30] &amp;lt;[PR]Nylanfs&amp;gt; Since 05/28, the last bod meeting PR was able to attend and report on, there have been several sources cleared.&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:30] &amp;lt;[PR]Nylanfs&amp;gt; Paizo's Skulls &amp;amp; Shackles AP, Advanced Race Guide, Faiths of Corruption &amp;amp; Faiths of balance.&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:30] &amp;lt;[PR]Nylanfs&amp;gt; Dreamscarred Press's Psionic books (several)&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:30] &amp;lt;[PR]Nylanfs&amp;gt; Mongoose's Quint Samurai&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:31] &amp;lt;[PR]Nylanfs&amp;gt; I think there's what 5 Dreamscarred books&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:32] &amp;lt;[PR]Nylanfs&amp;gt; New items have been reported to FB &amp;amp; Twitter via the website, although I'm noticing some trends there that I'll bring up later.&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:32] &amp;lt;[PR]Nylanfs&amp;gt; We're nominated for an Ennie so I hope everyone voted :)&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:33] * @[Chair]Drew Raised hand&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:33] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; Yup&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:33] &amp;lt;[PR]Nylanfs&amp;gt; Bryan and I will be down at GenCon (Me friday - sun, Brian just Sat I think)&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:34] &amp;lt;[PR]Nylanfs&amp;gt; There's a couple of publishers that I have attempted to contact, but haven't gotten a response from, I'll try and ping them and/or hunt them down at GenCon.&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:35] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; Paul on the PCGen Publisher Prowl  (PotPPP)&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:35] &amp;lt;[PR]Nylanfs&amp;gt; I need to get with David about all the locations that he was putting press releases and try and get that documented for the wiki.&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:36] &amp;lt;[PR]Nylanfs&amp;gt; And BEST of all, my system is back up and I'm not relying on my phone to due PCGen stuff.&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:37] &amp;lt;[PR]Nylanfs&amp;gt; I think that's about it for PR&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:37] &amp;lt;[PR]Nylanfs&amp;gt; Any questions concerns?&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:37] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; None here&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:37] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; Awesome job Paul :)&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:37] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; And glad to hear things are better.&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:38] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; Up next James representing Code and Arch.&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:38] &amp;lt;[PR]Nylanfs&amp;gt; Oh and as of the last count we have 219 sourcebooks from 48 publishers in the last prod release&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:39] &amp;lt;[PR]Nylanfs&amp;gt; Err wrong line 260 sources 51 publishers&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:39] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; Code report:&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:40] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; IN the last fortnight stats are: Feature requests:  5 created and 5 resolved, Bugs: 10 created and 7 resolved, New Tags: 3 created and 1 resolved&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:44] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; We've had a new code monkey join the team, Skylar Hiebert , and another couple who are starting out too&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:44] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; We should be ready for a new alpha shortly&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:44] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; Any questions?&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:45] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; None here.&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:45] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; Onto next agenda item: Outstanding Issues&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:46] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; We pretty much covered this, but a recap - B3, ARG and UE are gating 6.0's next release&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:46] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; B3 is being gated by a couple of code bugs&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:46] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; Anything in Code outstanding James?&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:47] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; I'm not aware of the B3 gating issues, so please send those to me&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:48] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; Will do.&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:48] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; Next Item - Roadmap Updates?&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:48] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; I've had a few people ask about this, so just tossing it up there. Do we have anything we want to update for the road map?&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:50] &amp;lt;[PR]Nylanfs&amp;gt; Roadmap really only goes up to 6.0 everything after is blank.&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:50] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; Yes that's true - I'll do a quick update to add the high level items from the code side&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:51] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; I'm actually starting to think we would be better doing a 6.2 release sooner rather than continue backporting&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:51] &amp;lt;James[Code_SB]&amp;gt; there aren't any drastic changes for 6.2, it is mostly incremental&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:52] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; Agreed&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:53] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; It's becoming tiresome to back port fixes.&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:55] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; Okay, Open Business&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:56] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; Anyone have any business to bring before the Board of Directors? (Open Forum)&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:57] &amp;lt;[PR]Nylanfs&amp;gt; Anyone have any word on how DarkDragonLord is doing with the Fantasy Craft work he's been doing?&lt;br /&gt;
* [15:59] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; From what I've seen, they've been flying through bugs pretty fast over on their JIRA&lt;br /&gt;
* [16:00] &amp;lt;[PR]Nylanfs&amp;gt; Yea, I've been watching those also.&lt;br /&gt;
* [16:01] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; I can shoot him an email and ask if you'd like.&lt;br /&gt;
* [16:01] &amp;lt;[PR]Nylanfs&amp;gt; Also I REALLY like the idea of offering publishers their own section of our JIRA to track bug issues with their datasets&lt;br /&gt;
* [16:02] &amp;lt;[PR]Nylanfs&amp;gt; That might bring in other publishers that have been on the fence of not having more control&lt;br /&gt;
* [16:03] &amp;lt;[PR]Nylanfs&amp;gt; Mostly I was just curious as to when he thought it would be close to something that could be released for public.&lt;br /&gt;
* [16:03] &amp;lt;[PR]Nylanfs&amp;gt; Not a hard date, but just curious :)&lt;br /&gt;
* [16:04] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; Never thought of it in that light. If you think that would help, I'm not opposed to the idea. This was specifically for their play test run.&lt;br /&gt;
* [16:04] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; Alright, I'll ask him, see what he says.&lt;br /&gt;
* [16:04] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; Any other business?&lt;br /&gt;
* [16:07] &amp;lt;@[Chair]Drew&amp;gt; *Bangs Gavel* Thanks for coming everyone. Meeting is now closed.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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